when a weird new human shows up in ur secret elven kingdom looking like he just killed a man and he calls himself Bloodstained and he’s definitely unstable but he wants to build u a snazzy bridge
anyway @alikuu here’s my further thoughts on how the AU where Tuor and Voronwe drag Turin to Gondolin would go, I’m sorry I got overinvested:
– Turgon remembers Hurin, and he feels sorry for Turin. He lets them both stay, but on the same terms as in canon – like Tuor, Turin can enter Gondolin, but he can’t leave. (Gwindor parts ways with them well before they reach Gondolin, he wants to go back to Nargothrond. Turin gives him the rest of his lembas for the road.)
– Turin spends a lot of time exhorting Turgon to bring the war to Morgoth. Tuor supports him in somewhat more tactful terms (this is not hard), or, like, at least tries to suggest they should do something other than dig in and wait. Turgon, being a more forceful character than Orodreth, is sympathetic but unmoved. If he didn’t listen to Tuor and Ulmo he’s not going to listen to Turin either. Turin is loudly angry, unhappy, and critical of Turgon.
– It’s worth remembering at this point that despite everything, Turin and Tuor are both very charismatic people who attract followers easily.
I love this AU! Didn’t Turin and Tuor (& Voronwe) run into each other after Nargothrond fell, though? This isn’t mentioned in the CoH probably because Turin was too distracted to notice he has a cousin right over there, but in the Tuor chapter when they walked past each other met Ivrin had already been defiled by Glaurung. Either way, I’m also really curious about how this would turn out for others, like Morwen and Nienor.
Idk what happens if Turin and Tuor actually meet before Turin gets to Nargothrond (I guess they either don’t leave Doriath or don’t find him, unless Turgon allows them and Mablung&Co in too – which I think would be too many new people at once for the guy, he’s like Beorn that way). I do like the idea of Orodreth having to be High King lol no I don’t have a sadistic streak
But if they meet after Nargothrond falls, Morwen and Nienor would likely leave Doriath to look for him like in canon. So the whole thing with Glaurung would happen too. Though I’m not sure if he’d still erase Nienor’s memory if she can’t reasonably get to Turin’s location. But if he did, she’d likely end up being found by the people of Brethil and get to live with them with no chance of incest happening, yay. And she might get a more cheerful 2nd name than “tear-maiden”.
Except Glaurung would then attack Brethil without Turin there to kill him… so either the Haladin have to flee/get killed or someone else manages to do it. Maybe Nienor. Actually, it’s definitely Nienor, I don’t see any good reasons why she shouldn’t get to kill a dragon 🙂
Galdor’s wife was of the Haladin and their sons, Húrin and Huor, were sent away to Brethil when they were lost and spent time with Turgon in Gondolin. Galdor himself was slain at Eithel Sirion in 462, thus Húrin became the third Lord of Dor-lómin.
During Húrin’s tenure as lord, Hithlum was largely made safe, owing largely to the great reclamation of lost lands by the Union of Maedhros of which the men and elves of Hithlum were participants. This gathered steam until the plans were made for another assault on Morgoth in Angband- the battle that would become known as Nirnaeth Arnoediad. Húrin mustered all the men that Dor-lómin could provide to supplement Fingon’s host in the west. The result was devastating for the House of Hador and their remnant covered the retreat of Turgon. They refused to leave and heroically drew up their lines behind Rivil, killing hundreds of Orcs and Trolls before their entire host killed to a man in a final last stand.
Hithlum, defenceless and beaten was thus taken by the treacherous Swarthy Men who had been so instrumental in Morgoth’s victory without any notable resistance of what remained of the people of the House of Hador. From this point the lives of the people of Hador became one of marginal slavery. The House of Hador fared badly under the Incomers; brutally suppressed, their lands were taken and their women forced into marriage with the new despot-lords of Hithlum. The nobility of the House went into hiding or killed trying to flee. Húrin’s son and heir Túrin was too young to lead and so was sent away to Doriath for his safety by his mother and Huor’s son Tuor was only born the year of the Nirnaeth Arnoediad and so was similarly guarded; fostered by the grey elves that still inhabited the mountains of Mithrim.
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