so for how many generations do y’all think stark men have been telling their children dramatic ass things like “when the snow falls and the wihite wind blows, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives”
8000, say ~25 years a generation = 320 generations of Extra But Chilly motherfuckers.
Aredhel A suggestion from Isilloth and Elesianne. This is my interpretation of the character. The details are chosen at my discretion and have meaning to me. Postulation about “who she does or does not look like” and fanon and canon wank is irrelevant to me (Tl;dr: Please keep it to yourself). This is my Aredhel. Take her or leaver her. On a more positive note, thank you for the suggestion, folks ❤ She was a nice break in my day.
Please don’t repost, remove artist comments, or retag ❤ Reblogs are appreciated 🙂
So apparently round umpty-zillion of “people are killing fandom by not commenting” is going around, and I’ve seen a few posts trashing people for lurking/viewing/reading instead of actively participating.
My journal and my fic has always been a lurker-friendly zone. I think lurkers are great and people can fight me on this. Here’s why:
We all started out as lurkers. Or at least most of us did. Come on. I’m sure some people out there must’ve jumped into fandom with both feet and started writing and commenting right away, and good for you if you did! But I sure didn’t. I lurked for YEARS. And even now, though I’ve been in fandom since before Y2K, whenever I get into a new fandom or a new social media platform, I still lurk. I hang out around the fringes for awhile to get a feeling for the place before starting to participate. Back in the mailing list/bulletin board days, it was usually recommended that people do that on purpose, watch and listen and learn the local lingo and social rules before diving in. So you know what? You are not doing anything wrong and you are not doing anything that most of the people you see out there commenting and creating and reccing things haven’t done themselves.
We all have lurker days, weeks, months …. Nobody is 100% “on” all the time. Participating in fandom (commenting, reccing, creating content, and so forth) is WORK. It may be fun work, but it still takes effort! Even if you’re sometimes very active in fandom, then you’ll have life fall on your head or the brain weasels flare up, and you won’t have the time and energy to give. Don’t feel guilty about not being able to give fandom your extra spoons. No one in fandom has a right to demand a single spoon from you that you don’t want to give.
Some of today’s lurkers may be your friends tomorrow. How do I know this? Because I’ve made friends with some of them myself! I’ve had people delurk in my comments to say hi after YEARS of reading my fanfic without saying a word. Which I am totally okay with, by the way. And some of these people are good friends today.
So, in conclusion:
It is okay to feel too shy to come out of lurkerhood in fandom until you feel more comfortable there. It is fine, in fact, if you never do.
It is okay to be too busy and have too few spoons to comment or create stuff. You still have a perfect right to be in fandom and read and reblog whatever you want.
It is okay if you meant to comment on that fic or go back and press the kudos button but never got around to it.
It is okay if you have too many accounts already and don’t want to create a new one just to comment/participate on a social media platform.
It is okay if your personal situation (a stalker ex, controlling parents) makes it unsafe for you to create an account or comment on things.
It is okay if you can’t or don’t want to comment or do any of the other things that constitute non-lurkerhood, and you don’t owe anyone an explanation for why.
anyway @alikuu here’s my further thoughts on how the AU where Tuor and Voronwe drag Turin to Gondolin would go, I’m sorry I got overinvested:
– Turgon remembers Hurin, and he feels sorry for Turin. He lets them both stay, but on the same terms as in canon – like Tuor, Turin can enter Gondolin, but he can’t leave. (Gwindor parts ways with them well before they reach Gondolin, he wants to go back to Nargothrond. Turin gives him the rest of his lembas for the road.)
– Turin spends a lot of time exhorting Turgon to bring the war to Morgoth. Tuor supports him in somewhat more tactful terms (this is not hard), or, like, at least tries to suggest they should do something other than dig in and wait. Turgon, being a more forceful character than Orodreth, is sympathetic but unmoved. If he didn’t listen to Tuor and Ulmo he’s not going to listen to Turin either. Turin is loudly angry, unhappy, and critical of Turgon.
– It’s worth remembering at this point that despite everything, Turin and Tuor are both very charismatic people who attract followers easily.
I love this AU! Didn’t Turin and Tuor (& Voronwe) run into each other after Nargothrond fell, though? This isn’t mentioned in the CoH probably because Turin was too distracted to notice he has a cousin right over there, but in the Tuor chapter when they walked past each other met Ivrin had already been defiled by Glaurung. Either way, I’m also really curious about how this would turn out for others, like Morwen and Nienor.
Idk what happens if Turin and Tuor actually meet before Turin gets to Nargothrond (I guess they either don’t leave Doriath or don’t find him, unless Turgon allows them and Mablung&Co in too – which I think would be too many new people at once for the guy, he’s like Beorn that way). I do like the idea of Orodreth having to be High King lol no I don’t have a sadistic streak
But if they meet after Nargothrond falls, Morwen and Nienor would likely leave Doriath to look for him like in canon. So the whole thing with Glaurung would happen too. Though I’m not sure if he’d still erase Nienor’s memory if she can’t reasonably get to Turin’s location. But if he did, she’d likely end up being found by the people of Brethil and get to live with them with no chance of incest happening, yay. And she might get a more cheerful 2nd name than “tear-maiden”.
Except Glaurung would then attack Brethil without Turin there to kill him… so either the Haladin have to flee/get killed or someone else manages to do it. Maybe Nienor. Actually, it’s definitely Nienor, I don’t see any good reasons why she shouldn’t get to kill a dragon 🙂
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