what is the most jon snow thing jon snow has ever said?

voiceshatemysilence:

thelawyerthatwaspromised:

showvigilance:

visenyastargaryen:

Literally…anytime he says anything sassy.

“You make us look bad’, complained Toad.
You looked bad before I ever met you,” Jon told him.

“Be careful you don’t cut yourself. The edges are sharp enough to shave with.”
“Girls don’t shave,” Arya said.
Maybe they should. Have you ever seen the septa’s legs?”

“First lesson, stick them with the pointy end.”

“I’ll take that wager, Ser Alliser,” Jon said. “I’d love to see Ghost juggle.

Like, Jon. You little shit. (I don’t know why I love this bastard so fckin much)

The most Jon Snow thing, though? The iconic of all the iconic? 

Edd, fetch me a block.

My son ❤️

My favorite:

M’lord,” Janos Slynt reminded him. “You’ll address me—”

“I’ll go, my lord. But you are making a mistake, my lord. You are sending the wrong man, my lord. Just the sight of me is going to anger Mance. My lord would have a better chance of reaching terms if he sent—”

Jon Snow is a passive-agressive asshole and no one can tell me otherwise.

repeat-script:

madaboutasoiaf:

scarlet00rose:

Jon Snow is basically a Disney Princess…
1. Wicked Step Mother ✔
2. Parents died ✔
3. Starts off in a Castle, leaves with nothing rises fast in the ranks of his new home ✔
4. Good heart✔
5.Talks to brids✔
6. Fights Ice monsters✔(looking at you Anna)
7. Awoken from his slumber✔
GRRM basically turned Snow White into Jon Snow.

Source

This guy gets it. Jon Snow is the princess who was promised; the fairest in all the land; the younger and more beautiful Queen who will cast Cersei down and take all that she holds dear.

It is known.

Sansa and the Failure of the Westerosi Education System

wendynerdwrites:

boiledleather:

One thing that’s very, very important to keep in mind about Sansa is that she didn’t come to all her enormously destructive illusions about
the way the world works and her natural place in it on her own. These
ideas were drummed into her over the course of years by her Septa, who
of course was hired and supported throughout by Papa and Mama Stark.
Okay, fine, maybe Sansa’s a bigger tool in terms of her
fairytale-princess fixation than most of the other women/young
women/girls we meet. And okay, fine, obviously her kid sister didn’t
take to all this claptrap the way she did. But none of that changes the
fact that it’s the failure of the education system, hopelessly tainted
by cultural/institutional misogyny, that basically drove her to
dipshittery. If Ned and Catelyn had paid more attention to the damage
being done to Sansa, damage that was at least visible enough for Ned to
need to step in from time to time to get her to back off of Arya, a lot
of problems could have been averted.

A few other relevant things to note: the idea that Arya “didn’t buy into” that stuff is also inaccurate. Arya herself has a painfully naive view of the world in many ways as well. The way she freely associates with the lower classes, not realizing the inherent risk it poses to, say, Mycah, to have him play at swords with her. A lowborn boy in many medieval cultures (and, as we see, in Westeros) would be at risk if seen playing with a highborn girl, especially in a way that could be perceived as aggressive. At Winterfell, clearly there was less class tension. But clearly Septa Mordane and Arya’s parents completely failed her in warning her that outside the more casual environment of Winterfell, it’s extremely likely that no one would take kindly to the sort of friendship that she has with Mycah. If Joffrey hadn’t arrived, likely at some point, some other noble would have stepped in and somehow punished Mycah for presuming to play with a noble girl, especially the way he was playing with Arya (though not to the sadistic degree that Joffrey did perhaps, at least not in front of Arya and Sansa). Arya’s dismissal of class distinctions sounds all fine, rosy, and dandy to a modern reader, but as we see, it in fact could have deadly consequences. 

Another person who is given a real “rose-colored glasses” view of the world is Jon, who is raised to believe the Night’s Watch were all noble knights. Furthermore, the idea that his situation as a noble, acknowledged bastard is just THE WORST speaks to a rather “head in the clouds” mentality that seems to have been instilled in the Stark children overall.

This point is especially good to point out because it does highlight the fact that: SANSA IS NOT STUPID. In what she was educated in, she excelled in everything but figures. We hear it from Arya herself:

“Sansa could sew and dance and sing. She wrote poetry. She knew how to dress. She played the high harp and the bells. ” – Chapter Seven, A Game of Thrones

Furthermore, we know she can read and write well. Extremely well by the standards of the time, even:

“Child, do you know your letters?”
Sansa nodded nervously. She could read and write better than any of her brothers, although she was hopeless at sums.”— Chapter Fifty-one, A Game of Thrones

I love this passage because it highlights a couple of things. One: Cersei asks her if she’s literate despite having spent about a year in Sansa’s company. That’s how little interest ANYONE has taken in this girl’s abilities and accomplishments outside looks and manners. PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY SPENT TIME WITH HER DON’T EVEN KNOW IF SHE CAN READ OR NOT. 

Two: She can read and write BETTER THAN ANY OF HER BROTHERS. Any of them. Including Jon and Robb, who are three years old than them. That’s actually pretty impressive when you think about it. Sure, she sucks at math, but that doesn’t make her much different from a lot of kids. But she, at age eleven/twelve, reads and writes on a higher level than teens who, let’s face it, by virtue of their gender (and, in Robb’s case, especially by virtue of his status as heir to Winterfell), likely had more attention paid to their academics than either Sansa or Arya.

Sansa HAS excelled in the areas where she’s gotten educational focus (save for math). She can read and write better than children older than her, she can play two instruments, write poetry, sew, and we know from several instances in the books that she has a fine knowledge of music, literature, and history (her knowledge of stories/songs like Florian and Jonquil, The Dragonknight, the twin knights Erryk and Arryk, etc she displays frequently). This girl isn’t stupid. 

She was raised in an education system that constantly instilled in her the importance of making an advantageous marriage to an “ideal” husband. At first glance, Joffrey WAS that ideal. As his wife, she’d have been QUEEN. There was LITERALLY no higher thing she was taught to aspire to.

The Westeros education system failed her as well as her siblings.

Do you ever think about how much stress/pressure Ned was under all those years he was hiding Jon? Always being worried that something would happen, that someone would notice something. Like, being in a constant situation of having to make sure that his lie stayed in place and no one ever suspected anything. That sounds stressful as hell.

him-e:

Indeed. For someone who is really uncomfortable with lies and deceit, and hardly has any inclination or skill for playing long games, lying to his wife and children and the boy himself and the king for years must have been exhausting, not to mention an endless source of tremendous guilt. It’s good though that Ned chose a relatively simple cover up story, one that—Littlefinger docet—is close enough to the truth (he didn’t change the part about Jon being born in Dorne, he said that Jon’s mother was his wet nurse), one that Robert would be quite sympathetic to (as he fathered many bastards himself), one that Catelyn wouldn’t want to look into too much (who likes to think of her husband with another woman?). Everyone ascribed Ned’s reticence about Jon’s origins to the fact that he felt ashamed about it, so nobody insisted, because it’s not considered tactful to pry into a man’s extramarital affairs. Consciously or not, he took advantage of the “don’t look, don’t ask” mentality that Westeros has with regards to lords fathering bastards, and it worked.

(what always gets me about Ned is that honor was everything to him and yet he forsook it twice to protect the ones he loved. He lied to everyone for fifteen years to keep a promise to Lyanna, and in the end he agreed to call himself a traitor to protect Sansa. The things we do for love.)

if R+L=J is True, and John is the PTWP and he saves all of Westeros, doesn’t that validate all of Rhaegar’s decisions regarding Lyanna and the realm?

pretenderoftheeast:

poorquentyn:

goodqueenaly:

Are you saying the ends justify the means, Anon? Because I definitely disagree with that. 

What about Brandon and Rickard Stark? Brandon rode to KL to protest the (very real) insult Rhaegar had committed against his sister and family. Rhaegar knew or had reason to know the Starks and Baratheons would be pissed – hell, he would have seen Brandon’s furious reaction to and Robert’s not-fooling-anyone dismissal of Rhaegar’s giving Lyanna the queen’s crown at Harrenhal – but left without any explanation, instead leaving the aggrieved families to deal with his paranoid and violent father. Were their cruel murders justified if Jon ends up defeating the Others? It was alright, for Rickard to be burned alive and Brandon to be choked to death, because Rhaegar ran away with Lyanna?

What about the presumably hundreds, if not thousands, of casualties of Robert’s Rebellion? Rhaegar emerged from his hideaway with Lyanna not to attempt a peace but to fight for the crown – the crown that had just ordered the murders of a Lord Paramount, two heirs of Lords Paramount, and various noblemen – and to lead the loyalist host to the same. Men died, for Robert and Rhaegar, in a conflict that, while it had deeper political causes than that, started in short-term with the absconding of Lyanna by the crown prince. Others died as well during the war, the innocent kingslanders present for the Sack, hell even Rhaegar’s own family. Were their deaths also justified by what  Rhaegar did? 

No, the ends do not justify the means, certainly not with Rhaegar and Lyanna. That Jon may and in all probability will be the hero of the final hour does not justify the short-term folly of Rhaegar’s decision. Rhaegar condemned many, many to die because he thought he needed Lyanna for some prophetic design. He forsook his duty as crown prince, to keep the realm peaceful and stable, and instead flung the Seven Kingdoms into chaos and war all to secure his prophesied child. That cannot be forgotten or wiped away, even if Jon does help save the world.

If Jon saves the world, the credit goes to him (and the other heroes), not Rhaegar. The notion that anything the latter did is retroactively justified is appalling, full stop. Worthy ends do not justify any and all means, this is quite frankly morality 101.

Just no to the idea of the ends justifying the means. How can you read Stannis’ A Storm of Swords arc and come out with the idea that the ends are worth the means? I give Rhaegar a lot of credit for wanting to save the world in the first place, but the way he went about it was careless to a continent-breaking fault and he should be condemned for it. Besides, there’s just one other hole to this idea: Tyrion and Daenerys.

He’s not responsible for their heroism or Stannis’ heroism or the countless people who will stand up on humanity’s behalf against the Others at Winterfell, just like he’s not responsible for Jon’s heroism. Jon will make that choice on his own, not because he’s a fantasyesque destiny baby, but because he wants to save the world on his own terms. It will be a decision he 100% owns up to, regardless of his birth father’s wishes.

Rhaegar wanted to fit Jon into a world-saving hole despite Jon being a snowflake peg. Jon will save the world, despite Rhaegar’s drive.

mrsdayne:

asoiaf meme: 1/11 relationships

Jon Snow & Val the Wildling

Lonely
and lovely and lethal, Jon Snow reflected, and I might have had her.
Her, and Winterfell, and my lord father’s name. Instead he had chosen a
black cloak and a wall of ice. Instead he had chosen honor. A bastard’ s
sort of honor