Arya: takes revenge on the Freys, mentions everyone but Robb
Dany: calls Torrhen Stark the last KINT and doesn’t mention Robb
Jon: tells Theon he betrayed his father’s memory but doesn’t mention Robb
Also Jon: gives away the north on a platter even though Robb died for it
The Winterfell crypt: doesn’t have a Robb stark statue
My husband Robb Stark, the rightful King in the North has been disrespected and neglected on this show as of late and I for one will not stand for it.
They had Sansa mention Robb. Too bad it was just to call him stupid.
Game of Thrones: We have to change Asha’s name to Yara because people might confuse her with Osha.
Game of Thrones: We have to change Robert Arryn to Robin Arryn because people might get him confused with Robert Baratheon.
Game of Thrones: Uh… Rhaegar named both his sons Aegon.
I realized I’ve gone through the 5 Stages of Grief when Game of Thrones started getting worse, and now I’ve reached Acceptance (mostly that the books and the show are in fact totally different things), so Idk if I’m gonna watch Season 7 but I probably won’t be feeling any disappointment anymore
Someone: I’ve read the ASoIaF books and just watched the first two Seasons of GoT. I liked it, so I’m going to watch the other ones soon too…
Me: Don’t! A day will come when you think yourself safe and happy, and suddenly your joy will turn to ashes in your mouth, and you’ll know that you should never have watched further than Season 3 or 4.
Arianne Martell: The female heir to Dorne who demands recognition and acknowledgement and refuses to be passed over.
“You will not rob me of my birthright!”
Wylla Manderly: Grandaughter of Wyman Manderly, insults the Freys in front of a hall full of people and refuses to be married off. And she has green hair which is pretty sick.
“He was our king! He was brave and good, and the Freys murdered him. If Lord Stannis will avenge him, we should join Lord Stannis”
Val: Sister of mance Rayder’s wife Dalla (who has also been cut) said to be extremely beautiful yet is fiercely independent and strong.
“I am no southron lady but a woman of the free folk. I know the forest better than all your black cloaked rangers. It holds no ghosts for me.”
Mya Stone: One of Robert Baratheon’s bastards, lives in the vale and is in charge of helping people up to the Eyrie.
“Men come and go. They lie, or die, or leave you. A mountain is not a man, though, and stone is a mountain’s daughter. I trust my father, and I trust my mules. I won’t fall.”
Lady Stoneheart: *spoiler alert or not really because she won’t be in the show* Catelyn Stark resurrected seeking revenge on the Frey’s and leading the Brotherhood without banners (there’s your revenge plot D&D)
“She don’t speak. You bloody bastards cut her throat too deep for that. But she remembers.”
Asha Greyjoy: not to be confused with whoever “Yara” Greyjoy is, Asha does not believe in flippantly calling people “cunts” and is not scared of dogs.
“My mother raised me to be bold”
Alysane Mormont: Fights with Stannis’ army and guards Asha when she is captured (oops not really spoilers again) and don’t tell me that they don’t become best friends because they do.
“Mormont women are skinchangers. We turn into bears and find mates in the woods.”
Barbrey Dustin: The widow of Lord Dustin, hates the Starks because she blames Ned for the death of her husband. She is cunning, intelligent and one of Roose Bolton’s biggest supporters in Winterfell (but you know in the show no northern lords are in Winterfell because logic)
”The bride weeps … Dressing her in grey and white serves no good if the girl is left to sob. The Freys might not care, but the northmen … they fear the Dreadfort, but they love the Starks.“
All these women are unique, different and complicated, even though some of them do not fit into d&d’s “strong women” or “sexually empowered” archetypes they are important and interesting parts of the story. All of these amazing characters were axed in favor of a storyline depicting a violent rape and that is truly unforgivable and disgusting.
Omg this is has to be the best show defense I’ve seen yet.
Like yeah, honeypotters are wildly more intelligent and creative than D&D and it’s great that they have an enjoyable outlet (though amazingly people find ways of being engaged with actually well-written pieces of media). That’s awesome.
But this is kind of like praising a bakery that gives you only stale bread because it really encourages customers to make great soups that can mask it. I’m very happy for all those soup makers but the BAKERY IS GIVING YOU STALE BREAD. It’s not magically this wonderful bakery because my brother’s matzo ball soup came out well. (He’s a honeypotter extraordinaire).
D&D do purposely leave things vague, for sure, because they can’t be bothered sorting out the details, mostly because there’s no logical details to bring something to fruition. Let’s just let people assume Carol and Batfinger had an important off-screen meeting with High Grandpa to set up a perjury trap! How would a scene like that have actually worked? Oh yeah, it wouldn’t.
But yes, I suppose it’s a silver lining that D&D’s incompetence has allowed others to flex their creative muscles. However to pretend this is really intentional or why the show needs to be defended is ridiculous. Come to the LoK fandom. Somehow we manage to have in-depth analysis, a plethora of transformative fanworks, and even people trying to fill in gaps for certain details there too (like Kuvira’s rise to power). That show is delicious challah. You can still make soup that pairs, but you also have the option of making French toast or just eating it plain. Have I tortured this analogy long enough? Kay.
I can handle some vague things and plot holes, but at this point Game of Thrones has way too much of that. AND there’s plenty of contradictions, sudden personality changes, and other paradoxical events (like, I doubt any amount of details about Batfinger’s or Varys’ Teleporting Travels could make them logical)
…that’s like the bakery giving you stale bread but it’s not just stale!
It has salami, nutella, olives and strawberry jam on it!
“But for all its apparently genuine efforts, the show is still clinging
to the idea of ‘feminism’ it’s had for many seasons, where strength and
badassness mean callousness, cruelty, and killing without guilt or
mercy.”– Rhiannon Thomas, Feminist Fiction
We here at Fandom Following are rather staunch Game of Thrones (GoT)…er…detractors. We know this might come as a shock.
However, we’re not disinterested in
the genre, nor are we the types of people who object to the depiction of
upsetting material, and therefore write off media that does so. Case
and point, we are huge, huge fans of A Song of Ice and Fire (aSoIaF),
the books this show is “based on.” Sadly for us, the showrunners David
Benioff and Dan Weiss (D&D) seem to be bigger fans of their own,
Bold™ ideas than the ones George R.R. Martin put on paper, to the point
where we came to realize how the show has absolutely nothing to do with the books, so #StopTheConflation.
There’s many ways you can join in on
this totally official campaign, such as yelling incoherently at social
gatherings when GoT inevitably comes up, or wearing a t-shirt with the
text of Septon Meribald’s “broken man speech” printed on the front in
size 6 font (or one of our book snob-approved shirts ).
But we have another way to set the right tone for fandom dialogue—that
is, a tone where aSoIaF could absolutely never be confused with its
sorry excuse for an adaptation—and that’s by coining certain terms and
character names.
I’m fuckin yelling, GRRM is finally screwing over D&D. I have waited for this day for so long…
There are limitations. Sometimes you have to make choices, there are hard choices.
That being said I also believe which maybe is not a popular opinion in Hollywood – that you owe a certain fidelity to the source material, to the fans and readers of that source material. And while you have to make some changes for practical reasons, you should never make extraneous changes just because you think you know better than the original writer.
If you’re adapting Spider-Man you should stay as close to Stan Lee as possible. You shouldn’t try to improve Spider-Man because you think you know better than Stan Lee – which you probably don’t. If you look at all the Marvel movies, the ones that stay closest to the original material are the strongest; the ones where people got carried away and introduced a lot of extraneous changes are weaker and sometimes disastrously weaker.
And I think that’s not just true of Marvel, that’s true of anything. You know, don’t mess with the original material. There’s lots of stories out there. If you want to make a different story, make a different story and make it your own story, make it an original. You know, you don’t have to trash something. There’s plenty of room for different variance on some of the basic ideas but if you’re gonna adapt something, you’re adapting it because it already has a name and a reputation. It already has fans. You’re getting the advantage of that. You’re getting the people who love this character or people who love this particular story, they are gonna come and see your movie or your television show because they love the original. What they wanna see is the original translated into a new medium. They don’t wanna see a new story that the scriptwriter came up with, just sharing a few basic elements of the old story.
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